I checked with this club and it seem not real original to me, because the swingweight is off the scale on each iron. Thoughts Appreciated as I am still confussed!!! What recourse do I have? So, technically, they are not lying. Thanks. Of course living in Fairhaven I told them I needed to go over to the company headquarters and speak w/ someone about the legit.. of the club. hello My 2nd Swing stuff looks awesome. our greed, is what makes these crooks successful. I cant tell particular differences between the club and the factory pictures. Address UK eh? Most of the time the angles are not what they should be, causing the ball flight to be different. My friend really upset and cant afford with new set what he look for. :). Province: Fujian The site has good reviews via a basic Google search and professes to be selling from the US. TL;DR, Dont cry for the golf companies; protecting their profits costs U.S. jobs and taxpayer money. (brand new wedges)used only the 55 in a 9 hole round last night felt great almost a i didnt swing hard enough sound coming from the iron but with great distance. I guarantee the golf clubs WILL be fake! Its not so much about being cheap clubs bc in the end maybe one save $50-100 bucks, but their set ups are very sophisticated now. Finish will most likely be different. None of the counterfeit web sites that I have looked at offer left-handed clubs, no. As a followup note from the original postI have confirmed that this website sells fakes. Delivery is phree throughout the world. They say the clubs come from a OEM supplier. That is generally a red flag for fakes. Is the equipment genuine ping or fakes? Miura Golf Iron Sets All Auction Buy It Now 501 Results 2 filters applied Golf Club Type Brand Flex Shaft Material Condition Price Buying Format All Filters Miura Mb 001 Forged Iron Set - RH $750.00 0 bids $45.10 shipping 4d 20h Miura CB 202 Forged Straight Neck 4-PW Stiff flex $350.00 0 bids $36.83 shipping 6d 21h or Buy It Now Great site with alot of information. Another tip is check out their security certificate logo at the bottom of the page. would like to know if wallys discount golf sells authentic or fake clubs, As much as i am delighted that i know a bit more about fake clubs out there.. it sure is scary. They appear to be counterfeit. Prices just dont seem right. Bill Street1: Xiamen Your link has been automatically embedded. They appeat to be genuine as prices are not that cheap, but good deals are currently being offered on various irons etc. has anyone bought any knock off sets of ping G15 and had good quality? i just purchased an order of ap2 irons from bestsalegolf.com, i was just curious if anyone has information on this website as to if there clubs are real or fake, if you could let me know it would be greatly appreciated! I do not know if it could be a fake or not. Seller will not agree to pay for returns. I like the driver but I would not buy from them anymore. Haha man the guys making the brushed stainless looking one laying face up on the carpet couldn't even get the groove count right!!!! And nowthe US produces next to nothing and the reason is cost and efficiency. Hes adamant their not fakes.I have since gone onto the website they have some amazing bargains but you can only contact them via email,no address or phone number and guess what their in china. Even the motore f3 shaft was a fake as confirmed by a legit Titleist seller. As a result counterfeiters have followed suit, but they are not putting it in the same location. They dont charge sales tax in any state the only way to get away with that is to not be located in the US. How about gurugolf and empire-golf? It has been up since 1999. now , some of the fakes are made better than the original ones I didnt use them, but the way they look and feel- even the pros wont figure out, Does anyone has feedback on the site : http://www.myonlinegolfshops.com/ Its gotta be fake a titleist driver for 200$. So you think the number is higher and actually 65-70%? There is a dealer on eBay that has great feedback. RockBottomGolf.com has over a 99.8% customer approval rating between all the marketplaces they sell on and market in. If you run your fingers across the bottom of the putter you will feel the edge of the weight. Just wondering if you have heard of this guy? They have both improved their quality with the edge going to Diamondtour.com. Of course fakegolfclubs.com will have the cheapest golf clubs in the world. The seller has not yet responded. Im desperate to get these quick quick, so just send me back any change with my clubs ok? Do not return them until you have a full refund plus postage and make this clear to the seller, even if he does not reply. The way I look at it now If I cant afford Retail prices I cant afford the Clubs. I advised him to credit my PayPal account immediately and he did. Lastly, use common sense if a brand new R11 driver is advertised as $200 off its most defenitely not legit. Started Thursday at 04:13 AM, By City : Kettering Im thinking of creating a new website called fakegolfclubs.com. China and Taiwan began to get almost all the work in regards to golf club manufacturing about 2 decades ago. The TM driver has such incredible graphics in the top and little logos that we both thought would be easy to see differences if mine were fakes. No reason to suspect that the club I bought is a counterfeit, especially considering the great distance Im getting off the tee since using it. Registrant Phone: +86.85283408916 I am specifically looking at eBay listings (Yes, I know that the only way to guarantee authenticity is to buy new from an authorized dealer), > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Miura-K-grind-Forged-1957-wedge-set-52-56-and-60-/254191423140?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true. They seem to ship all their clubs via Shenzhen because thats where they are when I track there whereabouts. I have also purchased a set of Mizuno MP57s irons from Global Golf, I live in Sweden and ordered them online when I was on vacation in Florida. Anyone who buys clubs from eBay really deserves it everyone knows that were everything counterfeit is sold. Thanks. All the golf clubs sold on our website are all made by every brandcompanys authorized manufacturer which can be called grey import products.In the eyes of the brandcompany those are fake,as it is not from the informal sources ,but they are really made by the authorized manufacturer. US Thats actually an OK deal. I would not be dealing with a company like that for my golf clubs. Direct from Taylormade (or just about anywhere else authorized) they are 799, free shipping. One question.. The about us citation will read something like: We sell genuine golf club to you. Bags are made in china anyway! I was wondering if there were perhaps fakes out there that could even have gotten into official dealer stocks. A legitimate seller of OEM clubs? after seeing this site im concerned about the authenticity. Lock Status: clientDeleteProhibited Upon review, some of the warning flags mentioned here are present questionable grammer, no phone number or physical address, no customer reviews. *We may earn a commission when you buy through links on our site. I actually discet them with my chop saw to check the insides then box up and store. Its as simple as that! Nowhere do they mention these are used. They have no links to verified payment providers/certificates either, and no geographical contact address. New Nike iron set? I had a buddy of mine buy some Calloway irons off ebay and they were counterfeit. Wish I found it earlier. I just received a set of Taylor Made Tour Burner Graphite irons; should I call Taylor Made to check on legitimacy? Spurred on by an investment by 8AM Golf (the parent company of True Spec Golf, Golf.com, and others) in 2017, Miura, the Japanese manufacturer of premium forged clubs, this week announced a new collaboration with golf lifestyle company LinkSoul.The Miura + LinkSoul Color Theory Iron set is the company's latest attempt to increase its appeal and reach in a market now densely populated with . AND what a surprise the clubs were shipped from China AND CC charge was on Toyntech.com. One Problem, and what drives people to the counterfeitsRoger Dunn, a store I usually love, has moved into the category of insanely high priced unless you go only for sales. taylormade tp. Started Tuesday at 05:32 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. Country : us Most stickers on authentic clubs are placed on the underside of the shaft up by the grip or down next to the ferrule. Display as a link instead, if you paid with paypal, open a dispute to get your money back, dont use that junk, and on their contact us page, they even made a mistake with tehir own name, Musurbuy.com US HQ. As looking below, when I checked serial number about which I ordered, it was turned out fake goods. When the auction is over, they instruct you to pay thru an invoice to Brand Golf Store(may be associated with Brand golfclubs.com) with an email address [emailprotected]. Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway @Robert Hunter These kinds of scams can be tricky, but the credibility of most dealers can usually be determined with a smart Google search. Admin Name: Chen Sun DONT DO IT! And, Im getting a higher launch point (stopped a 166yd 6 iron dead on the green I NEVER do that. We have two bags the other was bought in the USA from a shop, thus they are both similar. Yes I had read that article previously. I have purchased golf equipment from both and have had nothing but good luck with them. Remember pictures of golf clubs are easily copied from the manufacturers websites and therefore will give the appearance of the genuine article. FlightScope Xi Tour Launch Monitor Miura Small Blade Irons - 8-iron Spin: 8137 rpms Launch Angle: 29.7* Dispersion: 2.5 yds Club Head Speed: 82.9 mph Ball Speed: 111.0 mph Total Distance: 153.1 yds Carry Distance: 149.9 yds They all come with steak knives that can slice through a steel pipe or a soft tomato. I also learned that Mizuno did not care enough about me to let me know if my actions helped them out in the fight for counterfeit clubs. I never heard of overstock clubs being sold. 5 new Miura irons tested and reviewed | ClubTest 2022 - Golf I will be buying again from them this holiday season. They tell me they do not sell fakes, or copies and have factory authorized warrantied products. Handicap 19.4 February 2019 - Tried a buddies Miura CB-1008 set at our local Simulator club. The site claims to be selling the clubs at the wholesale price that golf retailers buy them at. $3,200. Bill Email: [emailprotected]. They make about 85% of all the counterfeit golf clubs on the market today. Forged irons have bag chatter because the metal is soft. Anyone have any ideas as to how to get response from them? Has anyone bought from these two or know if they are selling legit clubs. But more often than not, I no longer have a choice. xielunyong What the meaning of OEM in the world of golf club manufacturing is, Im not really sure. How do you identify fake Miura wedges? - GolfWRX Hi. However you can make amends. Thank you for saving me from a disaster, I am very happy with my Diablos. All vely, vely cheap. Data as of: 23-Apr-2008. Absolutely no problem using them. I would highly recommend GlobalGolf to anyone. GlobalGolf seems to be legit as well, but I have only ever purchased 2 clubs from them. bk12, November 26, 2019 in Deal or No Deal? PGA store has for $799 a set. golfdiscounting golfdiscounting Just wondering if anyone knows anything about http://www.hygolfcn.com , i just brought the new taylormade white ghost putter tm-110 model . Guess what? We hope to contribute to the decline in counterfeit club sales by giving you all the information you need to identify counterfeit golf clubs. I ask this, because I would like to get a set of a12 os. Anyone had any dealings with garagesalegolf on ebay? Im planning to try and call that NYC number on Monday. It is 20 minutes from my house and located at a golf resort. Tech Street2: They seem very legit. Does anyone know about greatsalegolf.com. Because, like any other rational entity in the marketplace, companies like Callaway and TaylorMade can maximize their profits by taking advantage of low labor and production costs offered in China. I know these are older irons, so did Miura have a time when they did not stamp GENUINE on the necks? Seriously guy, I feel absolutely nothing for your loss. They're authentic. Bill Street2: The only thing that sticks out here is the site has only been up since July of 09 and the registered owner has 119 other sites listed under his email address. Hurricane may not have the latest from the OEMs but they do usually carry last years model and overstock items at some serious discounts. Great job all! * Must have positive job growth between 2002 and 2006 i think i have answered you question already Though the U.S. economy loses out on the input, both direct and indirect of that production in the U.S. GDP, then the U.S. government is sent to spend millions in resources to protect the companies ability to do so. Higher end putters like the Scotty Cameron below are made of a softer metal and will have a differentfeel than the counterfeit. Ive fallen for this kind of thing as well and to my cost. Or go to WalMart. Instead look at the about us citation. Is this true or bs? This seems to be the norm for all of these counterfeit companies. So I am not 100% sure. I recently purchased a Taylor Made 2008 Burner rescue club on ebay from golfetail. I was told they moved production to China in the last year. hello? Registrant Search: wl sale owns about 2 other domains Idiots. That may happen for some of the lesser brands of clubs but I am sure the more ethical manufacturers such as Titleist or Ping would not allow anything of the sort. I have not done business with any of the above, nor do I recommend any of them. our price is reasonable enough Like I said in an earlier post, I can speak for Golfetail. I just bought 1 set cleveland CG14 wedge from this website ,very nice wedge! I searched on http://www.easybuygolf.com and didnt find much, but checked the whois record using whois.domaintools.com and it was from China. On enquiry from the lobbys security guards, there is no such company (9000+ sells and 99.8% positive feedback). I thank you much for that. You cannot paste images directly. chuanglianwangluokeji I have found that they have the cheapest clubs on the net vs any other legit online store, with their prices not being stupid cheap where alarm bells start ringing. The 5Banger ~ Mavrik SZ | Motore F3 7x. My relatives every time say that I am wasting my time here at net, I searched on the internet and found Callaway Razr Fit driver for $199. This was obviously a huge relief, so my advice to anyone who has been stung would be to speak to their bank immediately. Thanks!! What does anybody know about wholesalegolfmart? I am thinking of buying a set of x22 irons from http://www.golfdealonline.com any news on this website are the legit looks like great prices.. claim OEM? Hey guys i came across a sight not sure it if it fake but got a good feeling it is: I think your best places that are legit for sales like this are going to be Hurricanegolf.com and Rockbottomgolf.com. Has anyone ever dealt with a website called: I am very skeptical on this website as the written English looks terrible and there is no sign of their registration with UK companies house on the register. I would beware Sammy. + $45.00 shipping. The 10 Best Clone Golf Clubs (No Knock-Offs!) - The Golf Span Golf Blog ive been looking to buy the new ping g20 irons. I just received a callaway razor fit driver from jacks golf. are these authentic clubs if not and i recieve them can I get a full refund? They must have sold every set of clubs in the world. Has anyone used this site they say they ship from usa but still not sure if the clubs are fake. Should I consider these to be legit? No one in the building has heard of such company.Be ware! Looks like Im just another victim of fraud. There is just too much to gainthe market for this has just gotten too big. Total difference in performance. Also, Second Swing is legitimate company. Please listen very careful I recommend not order any golf club from the internet as not famous golf business name from oversea! I know it hurts to go to the big guys and pay the extra cash, but better safe than sorry. I have emailed them and they said this All clubs are original with serial numbers.Two reasons contribute to the competitive price. The more clubs they can get out on the market, means their brand has a larger market share. Any comments? Waiting for your answers! That day I became an immediate Miura 'snob'. So they turn to the U.S. government to enforce U.S. patents. Obviously that is a tall goal, and we are not perfect, but I dare say there is only a very very small minority is unhappy at the end of the day. Having read this forum and researching the site that I bought them at I cancelled the order yesterday via e-mail. Country: Hong Kong They are not likely real. mizuno mp 57 swing weight between c4 and d8 lies from 2 degrees flat too 4 degrees upright After investigating further, I have learned that the R9 woods are offered in the US market only in a steelhead, which is what I have. Read the reviews, clearly not written by someone with English as a first language. It wasnt until I checked the Contact us info that I found it was in China. Any ideas, please feel free to let me know. Postal Code : 606550 Beware, the clubs may be new, and from the factory that makes legit clubs during the day, however, they dont claim to be OEM quality. If you want purchase from EBay you may select Dealers/Sellers from the U.S. thus staying away from those in Asia which eliminates some or most counterfeit clubs. Anyway no doubt you will find holes in this, but I urge you to put your ego aside and humbly admit you may not have all the facts on this one? Anybody done business with tincup_golfstore on e-bay. However, my order is being tracked from Hong Kong and has been sent via DHL. The flange seems to be a standard length with a single thin sight line. 56988965 Fax , Technical Contact: Maybe the company does make them for Adams or who ever. Admin Street1: 112-114 Des Voeux Road,Central,HongKong So, why do we keep using these foundries to make our clubs you ask? I got a couple nice Y grind 1957s from 2nd Swing and a Wedge Series 51 that's gorgeous. Their rise to fame came with graphite shafts and oversized iron heads. WG. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 2 years. To close the loop on this, I emailed Miura with the links and research. Their prices are incredible. Their registrar email address is a free gmail account. Didn't take much research to firm that up. Can anyone chime in and help confirm if I am right?? These irons have a unique design with some reductions of perimeter weighting and more weighting allocated behind the sweet spot. They seem ligit as they have been cited in Golf Digest but I did not know how they compared to the bigger names in golf. Beware of a chinese website golfforsales.com Unfortunately ordered a TaylorMade Burner and it arrived with the shaft crushed at the grip end. http://www.golfwholesaleseller.com . Learn how your comment data is processed. This is another perfect example of the thieves that masquerade as golf retailers in the boundless world that is the internet. Hey Nash, Sorry that happened to you. Colors and fonts will be different just like on the irons and drivers above. Here in the UK the only way to get a good deal is to stay 1 model behind. I can tell you from personal experience that Golfetail/Rockbottomgolf/Globalgolf are 100 reputable and sell only genuine articles. Country : us ive used these guys a number of times on ALL different golf gear. Bill Organization: Brandgolfclubs If the letter C appears in the supplierss country of origin then be circumspect or pay with a method granting compensation for misdescription and fraud. So from what Im learning is sometimes you just might luck out and get a decent quality equipment even though they may be counterfeit, but more than likely, youre taking a big chance. The leathe work was not great, non straight lines and dodgy paint jobs. #PowerToThePlayer. */. Here are a few pictures from current ebay auctions, and one that shows the real head camber. Prices are really low and was debating purchasing the Ping G20 irons but worried whether there fakes or not, Warning for http://www.hotgolfuk.com! They obviously have to come through unauthorised channels. Hi there I was wondering if anyone has heard of augolfclubsonline.com, they calaim to be the real deal operating from Sydney Australia, however I ask them to provide me with ta contact number, they said they only do emails. How can I gell if the site is legit or my clubs are fake? I have just ordered $2000 worth of clubs from them. That is very scam! When I received my invoice it showed the Chinese company deng xu:[emailprotected] The dealer admitted that it was hard to see, but there were some differences. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Craig Coleman wrote: I am looking at buying some Callaway X22 irons and obviously having seen the price you are offering them for I am very interested. If you read through this thread you will find several comments that Rockbottomgolf is legit. Its up to you but if it were me Id steer clear of them. it has been very helpful. The price was not really inexpensive. Swag golf. If I buy sale clubs from well known outlets like TGW EDWIN WATTS GOLFSMITH, can I be sure Im getting genuine clubs? But refusing to pay someone for their design, and still using the design, is just wrong. So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. 6. Anyone have feedback on a site called Onlinegolfwholesaler.com? Tech Phone: +86.85283408916 For some reason I got a thanks for communicating message and was cut off You acknowledge, by your use of the Golfskydiscount,Inc. Free shipping throughout the world, possibly even free to moon residents. If you wait till the end of the season you are going to get a great deal on the clubs you want , I always am a year behind on my equipment just for the reason of seeing what is the best that year , then I try it and get my equipment for a great price . Be happy to help. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. I respect and understand legitimate intellectual property protection. As suspected it was not in the system. Thanks. help me there is only one problem with your theory. registered in the building. i am looking to buy an r11 off of this site and its only $259.. with free shipping. A friend put it on his scale to check swing weight (should have been D3) and it was so heavy it was off the scale. Also wondering if anyone knows about this brand being legit most of the time or not. So the offer of cheap gear on Ebay and the net is understandably attractive we all want th best gear!! I purchased a set of Mizuno 800 irons for $398.00, and got what I paid forcounterfeit direct from China. No ifs, ands, or buts)! I have been in contact with a gentleman from online store called Golf Mart. The store web address is http://stores.ebay.com/bobsbettergolf, they seem OK and very responsive, any info is appreciated. thanks! You guys sure Hurricanegolf.com is legit? However, there are other issues. Tech Name: Chen Sun But this time they use pot metal (diecast zinc) instead of 303,304 or 431 stainless and steel instead of titanium on the woods and drivers. Thank you. I am definitely thinking fake after viewing their prices. This site has been mentioned in some of the comments above, but can anyone confirm that this is a genuine site and good to order from? But I am fairly certain. Either buy the knockoffs/clones for very cheap, or the store brand like Lynx from Golfsmith, or if youre really a 5 HCP you can spend $800+ on a set. The grips were Taylormade grips but they had the alinement marks which the real club does not have since you are rotating the shaft with the adjustments you make. RockBottomGolf.com supports the needs for golfers around the world. They claim it is all authentic but, after reading all the above, now Im not so sure. I would advise you to go into the Paypal full claim system urgently and make a total rejection of the clubs and not to debate any sort of use. Your previous content has been restored. ClubTest: Testing Miura's new PI-401 irons against our current gamers First red flag is there is only an e-mail to contact the seller. THEY NEVER EVEN SHIPPED MY FAKE DRIVER. Also a great tip for fake Scotty Camerons is when they spell Scotty Scottie and when there are many listings of the same club with the same picture. if they are a fake i will open a dispute on paypal once i have recived the clubs. Logroo - Wikipedia So now Im wondering if they are fakes. My friend told me the name of golf business and said from Chicago. anymore due to legal issues. Tech Organization: Chen Sun Does anyone know anything about that site? I purchased a Ping G15 driver from golfmartdiscount for $169 with free shipping. Dont buy from this site. You would have to conclude the clubs must be either counterfeit or some kind of dodgy deal is being done through a side door. Is CHICAGOGOLFCO on ebay a legitimate dealer? I am still shooting in the 110 range same as my old Intech set. That can sometimes be a good tipyour right pengyun. Province: Fujian My friend brought it a year ago and that set look good quality. I have never heard the clanky sound it made from an authentic Taylormade product. Do they ship by EMS and tell you the package will be marked as GIFT? http://www.golfshop365.com/ping-rapture-v2-irons-steel-shaft-, They are fake, stay away from them. They sent me R/H when I ordered L/H irons and then after it cost me $75 to return to the address they supplied they deny getting them back and hence I am out of pocket $460 for my trouble. Another clue. I never understood why so many mid to high handicap players who play once or twice a week would justify paying the outrageous price that is being charged for these club. can you please explain this to me I want to bid on some mizuno mx 200 irons and would like to know if you think hes legit. Employees make such little money, that theyre will always be stealing and the selling of molds going on in this business.
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