For example, I ran into this this morning. TS has more sales because : Most people don't care a bit about all this. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? Click here to submit yours . I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Noise Treshold: Hello. Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. I am getting more sales on Cgtrader than TS though :P and CGtrader is easier to use. Turbosquid has a horrendous up-loader I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. There are currently no models in your cart. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). Care to share your time machine? Also the management is awkward on TS. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites.
CGTrader / TurboSquid Female Advanced Model - Free Daz 3D Models Hopefully that would make squids to react. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. I removed all products from TS. Better for who? I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. Like when something breaks that is no longer in production like your favorite mug or something. [quote]1.
This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. Payment Method It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. What? i think they both have there place . Payment Method Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. (2034950) 3D for someone that is a little more unique. Cgtrader have more favorable royalty rates, compared to TurboSquid. found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. A battle is going on right now, and some top sellers are going full #SquidClan with a custom deal from the Wisdoms: a 5-6 digit $ amount in instant cash now as an advance of a 2 year exclusivity deal, plus a boost of their royalties at the expense of all the other "non-top" sellers at Turbosquid that won't be getting any offer from Matt Wisdom. because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. The site owners could also act on other various levels : CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. Agree with every word above. Is it fair if I do? CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. 2. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Welcome to Eduvance Youtube Channel.Technology Leadership Program lecture series focuses on imparting knowledge to school students about new technologies lik. What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid.
Abdulhamid Saeed Aziz's Post - LinkedIn Chat with Support 24/7 Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. or do you prefer to do business with companies you trust and feel comfortable working with while knowing you are supporting a #FairBusiness model that in the future will revert in your own direct benefit? I think we just need so some massive killer models of epic proportions that the 3D modeling community cant ignore. In my understanding, for CG models, there are three main trends : large public with various expectations and low budget (roughly, poser people) ; professionals needing a good quality model quick and ready to pay for that (roughly, TS buyers), programmers wanting to create video games in search of game ready assets. CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan.
"don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. It also seems to me like CG trader is looking out a lot more for the artists. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. Uploading new product is so much more intuitive and easier than TS. As modeller and as salesman i am interested in earn money only. For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects Since you havent contacted us about any of these changes being incorrect, we are resetting prices on these models one final time (see the attached CSV file listing these models). But hey thats your call, That's sad, but true. although, the 3d printing industry is growing rapidly :D. I have to agree. Once that happens it is goodbye Turbosquid and hello big bucks for all of us at CGtrader. Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. To be honest, it's hard to me to believe that such respectable people like Mantas and Eduardas would refuse to remove negative feedback if it was given without firm reason. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. I'm not sure about your analysis. How about Negotiated price? just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. At least some aspects of it. I believe this would solve the 'bad content mixed with the quality models' problem. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. The Ts model does not support such thing and is not up to the task of modern time needs for this industry. Similar thing happened to me,that's why i'm at CGtrader full time now. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. Maybe I live in an unrealistic parallel reality, where at least some people still have some dignity and know how and when to differentiate good vs evil and take a public stand with actions instead of just words. It's all fine and CGT rocks the socks off the competition. I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. In regards to product awareness and marketing it is also nice to have some special user cases to show off, there is no room to collect user case data in the Ts model. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Turbosquid is the exact opposite. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). B: CGTrader needs to do SOMETHING about all the damn undercutters. (just playing with ideas here)
@Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Dear adentonclark,
I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. Rank improvement compared to previous 3 months: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com +5,816, http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/turbosquid.com +1,026. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. [a=http://www.google.com] google6[/a] @limonadinis I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. Thank you again! That is where the true value of 3D is today but unless someone can show the masses that this kind of thing can be done at a reasonable price ,(based on market value), then 3D will continue to be a half dead market until it will die completely because robotics have reached an advanced stage where they will soon be able to replace artists. This is my principle decision . Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. This is critical information (to me at least) in regard to evolution and overall development of the products and services you want to deliver. For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! But we forgot about the buyers. This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. Please let us know if you have any feedback. clients will come where is a big diversificated data base of quality models (not only printable models) and artists will come where paying clients are. my main income its still TS. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. This is from my own personal experience. I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me. Absurd as it may sound, a lot of customers doesn't even make a simple "XXXX 3D model" search and go to Turbosquid just because that's a name they heard before. When I asked why they don' want pay for that they have suspended my products ( 428) products they did not say anything after. 5. New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. Let's give some time to time. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. I have been very active on a forum of a different 3D model store, but the guys running it seemed to be ignorant about the issue. taken offline. CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? The sellers for which, CGtrader liked can help for this resource. There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost.
CGTrader vs Turbosquid | CGTrader You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. Site issues? However, the behavior of these clients kept me thinking and I had some dilemmas about what was actually going on here. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. patna Escorts Service We are currently working to redesign the homepage to show off both CG and 3D print ready models. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term.
For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. I don't think it's possible to have WORKING site with both 3d printing and classic models. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. It is the best RR in the world ! Im convinced now that when I would reactivate my Ts account I will just have a bit less sales here and get some sales over there, could be wrong but I don't care, 60% cut is ridicules and on top of that price guarantee is just total madness. And therefore it doesnt matter where it is. Speaking of it, noting even stops me here from adding in the description of the model something like this,"If you are a maya exeprt and can successful convert this project, then I will completely refund you in exchange for that converted maya file".
3D Modeling Jobs | CGTrader Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. In the long run I'm going to quit selling on TS also. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers.
Let the experts talk about : What is the best site for free 3D models Turbosquid / CGTrader - Photorealistic Female Rigged If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. Think about the kind of treatment you can expect from these soulless corporate hacks once they can play their monopoly game again. I ended up terminating my account, seeing as I couldn't operate the store under such conditions - not only did I risk having the work I'd put in uploading items undone at any moment, I also had no idea what pitfalls I had to avoid to not have items taken down. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. That place is dead for me. While this tactic worked very well at first and allowed to draw that many sellers in relatively short period of time, now it's time to think about buyers, as without them sellers will start to starve. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. We made this limitation to protect our designers from leechers who download hundreds of free models and then try to monetize them in some other way. Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. TS has bather page rank, when someone searches the net it will come on top, simple because it is an older website. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site.
Chat with Support 24/7 TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons:
The stores/collections idea sounds good but maybe a simpler voting system for any product/seller will give an easy ranking system to take in count for search results among other factors. CGTrader. My opinions have evoluted over the months. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. I did not know about that. Next we would have the sales/customers feedback factor coming in to sort out the stores ranking. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! TS can go to Hell, and never return again. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at.