She now after many painful operations will be a partial cripple for the rest of her life. The hammer connects with a firing pin thats integrated into the frame, which strikes the primer.
The Best Glocks | American Firearms Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered - BubbleSub 4 under extreme stress you may short stroke it. There is also one of an off duty cop pulling up his pants and firing his clip draw equipped pistol. Because if youre smart enough to be worried about a Glock short trigger and trigger safety, youre probably smart enough to know you need to train so that your trigger finger is never in the trigger until the sights are on target, and you take the time to inspect your holster for obstructions before holstering or unholstering. Colt change the SAA!? This has nothing to do with car=privilege firearm=right. Frankly, most of us should be more concerned about our cholesterol anyway. But people *MODIFY* (for chrissake) their Glocks trying to make the trigger compete with a 1911, then wonder why they shot their foot off. I have trained chambering on the draw and while it is less effective I am still way ahead of the guy who doesnt carry. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Carry your GLOCK pistol chambered without worry, the same as every other modern striker fired pistol on the market. Negligence or stupidity, flip the coin on word choice. oh yeahuhcarry what you like guys.
Why the Glock Model 48 is ideal for smaller cops - Police1 Not the first time I have seen you feed the gun grabbers agenda either. Ammoland eh? Try it. Personally, I have several, ranging from BP revolvers to modern SA and DA revolvers & semi-auto pistols, to rifles and shotguns. There are tons of features that make it worth your consideration, starting with its trademark durability and flexibility. And, sorry youre a confused fool. Barnum should have said, There is a Moron born every minute so I guess I will have to say it for him. Safety rule number 1 a gun is always loaded. If you are so scared of a striker fired trigger, then why not get a hammer fired gun? Hm. All that said, training, knowledge of your firearm's design/function, and practice go a long way to make any firearm safe to carry with a round chambered though some designs are better for a particular purpose. Training is nothing more than repetition. You shoud not count on having both hands available while being attacked. The Glock handgun is the preferred handgun of police worldwide. Conceal. I once had a grim laugh when one Jethro Bodine (after emerging from his out house) told me he bought a Glock because he could not stand the worry of carrying his 1911 cocked and locked. You just have to scroll down to it. I for one dont want to take the chance of fumbling around with a gun trying to rack the gun under pressure. As I mentioned elsewhere here, the trigger pull and safety mechanism are irrelevant to the *proximate* cause of any Glock discharge Im aware of. The finger does not go in the trigger guard until Im ready to fire. If I feel the urge to admire, use and hold a finely engineered machine I might just as likely pull out and ogle any one of my watches, of my bicycles, of my cars, of my surgical instruments, of my fountain pens or of my firearms. Still chambered in 9mm, the G19 measures 7.28-inches in total length. Big Bill: Yup. As a matter of fact in an extreme emergency you could carry the HK with no holster and in your pocket or even waist band but if you did the same thing with a Glock you would quickly blow your balls off in short order. Please note, comments must be approved before they are published. you are correct. Not carrying a round in the chamber does indeed provide you a 100% chance of not having the gun go off in the holster. Never mind the others. Congratulations. Bet you still get stabbed. without going into details i have it set up that theres no way anybody gets in my house at night without making enough noise for a long enough time that i wont have enough time to wake up and get my wits about me and get my firearm and charge it while on my way to the threat Never happened yet I would rather shoot myself in the leg but still be in fight than have bad guy shoot me because I didnt have a chambered round. Your family is worth it.
Glock 26: Everything to Know About the Ultra-Concealable 'Baby Glock' Weight: 22.9 oz.
Balancing Safety & Readiness: Carrying "Cocked and Locked?" Is it safe to carry a round in the chamber? You are not going to change my mind.
How To Train If You Don't Carry With A Round In The Chamber It made me feel extremely uncomfortable. I have a CCW and am carrying the Glock in a Galco Stow-n-Go IWB holster. Discharge during take down? I still get the occasional email notification. Or some jackass was pocket carrying his G43 without a holster and something snagged the trigger.
Concealed Carry Corner: Top 4 Carry Myths to Avoid - The Firearm Blog Not having a bullet in the chamber would make a discharge in the holster impossible. Have you ever negligently turned down the wrong way of a one way street? I would like to carry at the ready, but doing so really gives me the heebie-jeebies. See? The gunfight at the end was pretty good otherwise, but at one point Costner gets 16 shots out of his Colt SAA without reloading.
There are advertisements for trigger jobs on striker fired guns to make them with an even less pull weight!! That photo of the safe is cute, if completely patronizing to those who make the kids argument. They claimed that the officer didnt purposefully pull the trigger, but he just twitched from his heart beating fast and the gunshot an unarmed innocent man. I think the Glock leg argument is kinda straying off into another argument, that could be a good idea for its own article. The 1911 has a grip safety as well as a thumb safety. The Glock 26 Gen 4 weighs approximately 25 ounces with a loaded magazine. Heres a news flash, ever since Adam and Eve ate the serpents apple were all fallible. But youll likely carry for years and years, manipulating said weapon an uncountable number of times in the process.
How Can The Ruger LCP II Be Safe To Carry? - Community for Kel-Tec Shooters Unfortunately, the safety is on the wrong side of the slide for me so I dont use it. It is also popular for law enforcement and for use as a backup weapon. Height: 5.4. Glock is a brand of polymer-framed, short recoil-operated, locked-breech semi-automatic pistols designed and produced by Austrian manufacturer Glock Ges.m.b.H.. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_8',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');I do know one engineer who figured out that if it was dropped from 221 feet and it lands on the right angle squarely on its barrel, it could possibly go off, but the bullet would immediately strike the ground and not do much after that. I carried it un-chambered for a few weeks till I was comfortable. So in 2019, are you telling a revolver carrier to carry only 4 bullets instead of five?? These Glocks have been beat to death and not once has the gun " fired " without some sort of trigger manipulation. Or tell them to carry only 5 bullets instead of six?? Glocks have a feature that prevents the trigger from accidentally being pulled, blocks the firing pin until the trigger is fully pressed, and the pistol is not actually cocked until the trigger is puled. Between the trigger safety, the firing pin safety and the drop safety I feel very comfortable carrying it chambered. Jordan enjoys giving his time and resources to help others and has spent 15 years volunteering in a boy's mentoring program He is and will always be an American Patriot. When carrying the gun in a holster, the grip safety will keep the gun from discharging, even if the . In a prima facie, on-paper, in-theory sense, thats true. But the real benefit is in the noise. But now at my age I know me and I know my weapons and youll be gambling with your life if you engage me thinking you know whether there is one in the chamber. This is the inherit design of a sticker fired pistol. Heres a link to it. Kids are grown, hoping dad doesnt ever need to move in, not the reverse lol, and I have em where I need em to be and they are ready when I am. Thats a bunch of bologna written by writers who know nothing about guns. Police departments across the country mocked the NYPD for their accusations and understood that its both trigger happy officers and training issues that lead to problems like that.Glocks two-part trigger is one piece of their internal safety features. Big thing, its hammer fired and its also DA/SA, so I have no problem with chambering a round and lowering the hammer. When she holstered her Glock .40 it went off and the bullet went down her leg utterly destroying it. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. No safety needs to include a stiff, lengthy trigger pull, like the LC9, or a DA revolver. This is not remotely comparable to carrying a semiauto with an empty chamber, where the slide must be racked to make the gun ready to fire. Break into my house and well see how seriously you take a couple .44 mag slugs to the chest.
Is it Safe to Appendix Carry a Glock? - Incognito Concealment I forget just how stupid people like you really are your response is so childish and you carry guns I hope you dont blow your face off looking down the end with six letters grow up. Old school, extract, thumb, trigger finger, rinse n repeat often until autopilot takes over. Nope. Beyond being "The Original" Glock, which won the company favor with the Austrians then the world, the Glock G17 is arguably the most popular Glock pistol model on the planet.. -John Muir. I like having a gun ready to shoot but I need a second chance when Im juggling. My Taurus G2C is DAO, restrike, and no mag safety. Theyre both safe and useful within their own parameters, and people are free to choose the one they prefer. Maybe you should just use a spork. In a way, the GLOCK trigger is similar to a double action revolver trigger. Here's my situation: Carrying the pistol with a round in the chamber freaks me out. Your local police do exactly that. It was called Fractured Fairy Tales. For all those terrified at Condition One semi-autos, a percentage carried hunting shotguns afield for upland game and waterfowl every one with the . Yes, you're being silly. Note, the sentry safe does have a security vulerablity that can be mitigated by covering a hole with stainless steel tape. Carry it in your home in the holster you're going to use in public, without a round in the chamber, but with the striker in the ready position or "cocked" and see if you have an issue with the trigger being pulled. A revolver with an empty chamber under the hammer IS ready to fire. Some say it makes the trigger drag, but it doesnt on mine. Nor with his next, more significant error, suggesting that floating or inertial firing pin guns (like a 1911) ARE drop safe with a round in the chamber, even though all such firearms with a round in the chamber WILL fire if dropped on their muzzle? BTW.. Glocks have a 5.5lbs trigger pull so I doubt it will discharge from your love handle rubbing on it. One common question among Glock owners is whether or not they can shoot aluminum cased ammunition in their . The Springfield Armory XD-E is a new hammer-fired compact pistol. Glock 17. What is wrong with such ones is that they get a nice, warm, mushy, feeling of superiority over others by putting them down. "The mountains are calling and I must go." Thank you very much. No thanks. Options are good. I would consider the weapon fully loaded at this point. All that said, training, knowledge of your firearms design/function, and practice go a long way to make any firearm safe to carry with a round chambered though some designs are better for a particular purpose. In addition to this, some manufacturers have added manual lever safeties to their firearms and XDS has the grip safety as well. Uberti, for instance, makes some models with a transfer bar safety and also a few with a floating firing pin, which drops below the channel to the primer when the hammer is fully forward and can thus be carried fully loaded. Im a lefty and the controls on the P 89 are completely ambitious I love SA/DA hammer fired autos. A GLOCK is a striker fired pistol with about a 5.5-pound OEM trigger pull that has incorporated into the trigger--in the form of a lever--and when it is engaged blocks the trigger from moving rearward.
Which glocks are the best for concealed carry? - Police1 Perhaps you could write one yourself even. Why would you do that more in a Glock than in *any other firearm*? If my shooting was up to par with my driving Id be like Lena Miculek. Thought about getting the Sig with the external safety, but decided not too. The list of pistols that have a drop safety to prevent the gun from going off unintentionally when impacted is quite long you need to look no further than any of the handguns allowed in the . On Firefox for Windows, it just goes to the top of the page, but it will still get the newest comments. How often do you train your driving abilities?. Oh - And my Cobra .22 has one round in EACH chamber. you would do well to keep in mind that some people dont carry with a round in the chamber not because theyre so afraid or lack of training but because simply of where they live and the laws that exist there if they did they would be constantly administratively chambering and unchambering a round throughout their day while doing so in their vehicle Pull back the hammer, you notice how it clicks 4 times? Dave: And the 1911 series 80 fits into that category. My bedside gun is always a DA revolver. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_5',119,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0');The danger comes from dangerous gun handling and not following safe gun handling rules. Pretty soon, it became standard for guns to have a manual safety switch. OthersI just didnt think about and for some pretty good reasons. Just do what you are comfortable/confident with and what is best for your individual personal situation. The graveyards are full of former motorcycle riders and Glock users. Perfect for everyday carry, the compact Glock 43 is a popular concealed carry option chambered in 9mm. When I go out without my kids I rack the slide. and self styled know it alls. ended up in the guys nostril, and he still didnt get quiet, until he heard the cocking of the hammer. Its an unnatural, metallic noise that spooked him instantly, and I missed the snap shot at a running target, and he was gone. A great capability, because a dud round will usually fire upon a second strike, and your finger is going to automatically do that anyway. So old single actions have to be handled and loaded in a certain way to be carried safely. Hmaag [CC BY-SA 3.0], via Wikimedia CommonsTodays revolvers have a flat hammer. I wonder how it avoids the googlebots? P.T. I have yet to find a dumb ass vaccine. I know, its a big word, all scary long and has lots of syllables, but try it out. The round wouldnt even need to be in a chamber at all. Any striker fired pistol that doesnt incorporate some type of manual safety has the same chance of a ND as a Glock. The best line of all time is Dirty Harrys. My AR is half loaded with the mag in but unchambered. That may be true but it is also irrelevant, since the *actual* cause of the negligent discharge is*negligence. Jun 4, 2009. I thing Mossad guys are well trained, just saying. He thinks one big long post thats all one sentence is not a mistake. He thinks. To the point I know I can unholster, rack, and have my tritium dots centered on some perps forehead before they know whats coming. They're fun, handy, and can be very practical. You carry your way and Ill carry mine. I had the same concerns when I first started to carry my Glock. Its your right to self defense. Since the pin must have considerable energy to fire the primer charge, and then must expend that energy quickly through a sudden stop, it really doesnt matter, because the available object to provide the sudden deceleration needed to drive the pin into the round is almost certainly going to be the ground, and the round must be in line with the inertia, which, if provided by gravity instead of the firearm itself, must be downwards. Time waits for no man, and neither do bad guys. Weve beaten this dead horse enough. The Glock trigger is too light and too short to be safe. (Some chance remains, of course, given extraordinary circumstances that can be described but have statistically no chance of happening.). The initial pull of this trigger performs generally the same function as the thumb safety of a 1911 or single action. But, OFC, the current crop of TTAG writers are kept too busy chasing sponsors to look up the meaning and physics of the things theyre writing about. However, it is not unusual for some new to guns like Glocks to be concerned about carrying a round chambered. So were really talking only about safe carry and capacity, as the first shot fired will be from the NEXT chamber. But thank goodness I dont have to make that choice. Sounds a lot like a problem created by attorneys to have something to sue over, doesnt it? Ive been known to knock over a glass of milk , spill my coffee down my chin , have people toot their horn at me from time to time , you get my point . There is one thing very different between handling a car and handling a weapon a 4000 pound vehicle traveling at 62mph carries over half a million foot pound of energy vs ~350ft/lbs out of your little 9mm or .45 pea shooter. But that would be true for almost ANY gun that didnt have a manual safety engaged. When suddenly a rabbit rushes out of the brush, I sometimes forget to switch off the safety. It became the norm to carry with an empty chamber. This should convince you that your glock is safe to carry chamber loaded and you won't have to worry about blowing your 'nads off. Um. They said that it was the fault of Glocks having a super light trigger. The safety either keeps the trigger from being pulled or blocks the cartridge from being struck by the firing pin so it cant go off. It wont matter if the slide is in battery or not.
CCW - Is it Better To Carry With a Round Chambered or Not? Folks need to do what they are comfortable with though. It will catch on and you will be a rock star! But do suggest they make more of them and lower the price for us plebes. Why would anyone want only one of something? Glock came up with this and called it the 'Glock Safe Action Trigger'. The priming compound could care less WHAT hits it, so long as the blow has sufficient energy to activate the explosive charge in the primer, it will detonate. None of those things make any difference at all. Dani: I dont know how high Id have to go to get it to ignite, but I figure Im never going to carry my piece 8+ off the floor, (seeing as how thats the height of most ceilings). Ok, maybe youre taking off your holster and you drop the whole dang thing on the floor. 1 - 20 of 30 Posts. Note the flat(ish) hammer. They are built using the patented Safe Action System which prevents unintentional firing.
Glock and carrying with chambered round | SIG Talk We can put a bullet thru the eye of a bunny sitting still but its hard to get a head shot when its running, us being the bunny. Ive run an experiment with a rough 1911 with a POS barrel that was scrap. I feel its foolish but its my thought. Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it?, And, again, absolutism that is far too easy to refute. Of course theres a difference between driving and shooting. I dont expect hardware (or software) to compensate for a persons stupidity, as opposed to the opinion of many other people who think it should. How often do you train your driving abilities? However, there still isnt a compelling reason to carry a gun or keeping one for home defense that isnt loaded which cant be gotten around with a bit of training, a bit of brains, or a bit of extra gear. Well you can either use it as a gun or as a brickI like mine to be carried like a gun. Um, Smith & Wesson doesnt use a transfer bar, they use a hammer block. All it takes is knowing what the word; inertia means. One of the first shoot houses ever built was built by Fairbairn and Sykes to train their officers. The fix was to add a safety.
Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered - Franjacobs ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I think I can answer that one. Glock likewise provides a slimline design, which integrates features from the Gen 3 and Gen 5 Glock guns. As a top performer in reliability and safety tests, it quickly entered into the Austrian military and police service. But that would mean giving up my beloved 1911! Been reading the thread here on this topic, since we all have an O I quite agree with your spot on comment Sir. Muscle memory is a life saver when things go adrenaline slow MO mode, and those Taurus, PT-111s, have that thumb safety where Im used to one being, the pipe is red hot, and, eyeball to eyeball, it will fire again without re-racking the rear sights on someones nose. De nada. So you are in reality arguing that if someone makes a *negligent mistake*, the Glock is more likely to discharge than another firearm. Not an appreciable amount of time. I carry my Jericho the same way. As someone from MS you gotta tell me where this full auto shoot was.